Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

Sat May 24 00:53:11 UTC 2008

I hesitate to weigh in here, but my observation after several years of 
doing a fair bit of traveling to a wide variety of places is this:  In any 
big city, anywhere in the world, there will be plenty of people ready with 
lectures on how "this is a big city, and is therefore a dangerous place. 
You need to be careful."  Often, this will be repeated with escalating 
tones of alarm if it becomes clear that I've been ignoring it.  Sometimes 
the claim will be that their city is especially dangerous, and sometimes 
the claim will be that it's dangerous just like any other big city. 
Sometimes it takes on the form of "this is a really safe city, but don't 
go out at night."  It doesn't matter.  Some cities really are dangerous, 
and some seem quite safe, but there's no quantifiable difference between 
lectures received in places that really are dangerous and places that 
aren't.

-Steve

On Fri, 23 May 2008, Paul Stewart wrote:

> A lot of it is common sense - New York is a GREAT city .. no question
> and very safe overall.  But common sense will tell you not to take a
> leisure walk through Harlem at 3AM .. having said that, I've walked
> through Central Park (65th St.) at various times of the night and never
> had a problem, but then again that's different too...
>
> Travel in herds and mind your own business - don't travel at 3AM (on
> foot) and you'll be fine..;)  That really goes for any city when you
> think about it...
>
> Take care,
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:alex at corp.nac.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:06 PM
> To: Rod Beck; David Diaz; Martin Hannigan
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting
>
>> I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one
> of
>> the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement.
>
> While I generally agree with what Rod is saying, saying "NYC is safe" is
> like saying "all routers are cisco"
>
> There are safe areas, and there are not safe areas. I don't know how the
> Brooklyn side of the Brooklyn bridge rates, but I don't think I'd be
> overly concerned. And, since people going to NANOG tend to have a
> herding instinct, there shouldn't be a problem.
>
>
>> New York has a lower incidence of crime than Miami, Detroit, Seattle,
>> Los Vegas, Houston, Atlanta, DC, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia.
>
> Yes, but in at least most of those locations, my Florida or Utah CCW is
> valid.
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