Coop Peering Fabric??
Patrick W. Gilmore
patrick at ianai.net
Tue Aug 12 14:11:13 UTC 2008
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:58 AM, David Diaz wrote:
> Love the Borg comment.
Thanx.
> Great thread. Old topic. It recycles every couple of years. Not
> to speak
> for telx or Mike L but I do not think anyone was motivated to Borg
> anything
> but to support AIX. 10Gig ports are expensive.
>
> I like the idea of more exchange points in that they usually provide
> more
> recovery pts and redundancy, allow the sharing of skills and
> knowledge in
> the local community, and provide flexibility for growth and change
> of the
> internet. How many COs do we have? There has long been the argument
> of how
> many IXs are needed, would it be 1 per state? What happens with
> Voip, IPtv
> etc.
>
> As for coops I think the argument is would the larger traffic
> players feel
> comfortable connecting and making it a part of their networks? Who
> are the
> anchors and 1st movers? What are the guarantees that any investment
> in
> infrastructure needed to get there will be recovered over X years...
> Will
> the coop fold before that pt? Wll it have the resources to upgrade.
Who said anything about larger traffic players? What's wrong with a
bunch of little guys getting together to trade traffic, for fun and
profit?
The smaller guys might have a better focus on performance in the local
area (gamers anyone?), plus they tend to pay more per Mbps because
they don't have scale, which makes moving a little traffic off more
economical.
All that said, Akamai is a pretty big network and they're present at a
lot of these "small" IXen. Ditto for local eyeball networks, e.g.
Shaw @ SIX, Rogers @ TorIX, etc.
> I so not think a poison pill is needed. Perhaps just a group or
> company
> championing Coops and giving them booth-space at events, sponsoring
> conference travels, providing rack space etc. But if it's in the BEST
> interest of the members to have a larger group come in and take over
> then
> what is the harm? What is the alternative, have members pay
> membership fees?
> Corp Sponsorship?
>
> I agree on much of this. But as with most things it comes down to
> money. Do
> members have a financial incentive to join and what is the financial
> model
> to keep the Coop moving forward as a success.
Several small IXes have grown quite a bit with no or very small
membership fees. Look at the ones I mentioned. I think SIX is the
largest, but they're all not that tiny.
--
TTFN,
patrick
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