Worms versus Bots

Chris Woodfield rekoil at semihuman.com
Tue May 11 17:14:21 UTC 2004


I stand corrected, they're out there. I'm advised that 3com has a on-NIC firewall 
product as well.

However, at $299 and $329 respectively, I don't anticipate wide adoption in the 
consumer market...

-C

On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:49:05PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote:
> 
> Uh... they have. It's called a Snapgear card :)
> -- Jonathan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Chris Woodfield
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:42 PM
> To: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
> Cc: Petri Helenius; Michael.Dillon at radianz.com; nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Worms versus Bots
> 
> Simple solution...build the on-NIC firewall to not use uPnP, or at least
> require 
> a password before changing rulesets. :)
> 
> Seriously, this is such a stupidly simple solution that I'm amazed no one's
> attempted 
> to make a product out of it yet. 
> 
> -C
> 
> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:21:29PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:38:33 EDT, Chris Woodfield said:
> > 
> > > A better solution would be a NIC with a built-in SI
> firewall...manageable from a host
> > > app, but physically separate from the OS running on the PC.
> > 
> > Gaak.  No. ;)
> > 
> > What's the point of a firewall, if the first piece of malware that does
> manage
> > to sneak in (via a file-sharing program, or a webpage that installs
> malware, or
> > an "ooh! Shiny!" email attachment) just does the network Plug-N-Play call
> to
> > tell the firewall "Shield DOWN!"?
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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