Open relays and open proxies

Fri Apr 25 13:28:21 UTC 2003

Jack,

Let me draw an inference from your reply.  For example, in parts of our
community, there are ordinances against putting up A-Frame signs.  (the
tin signs placed in or near intersections, generally used to advertise
real estate)  

Each weekend the local P.D. confiscates these signs and stores them in a
holding pen.

Therefore, am I just as 'guilty' if I host A.B.C. Homes website, if they
choose to advertise new homes in this clearly illegal manner?  The
A-Frame signs are a nuisance and use up professional time to remove,
just like spam.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere, wouldn't you think?

Regards,
Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO
Broadband Laboratories, Inc.
http://www.bblabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Jack Bates
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 5:18 AM
To: Christopher J. Wolff
Cc: nanog at merit.edu
Subject: Re: Open relays and open proxies

Christopher J. Wolff wrote:
> 
> The spamcop complaints that really set me off are the "spamvertised
> website" complaints.  Just the mere fact that you host a site that was
> advertised by spam enjoins you in the spamcop chain of causation, even
> if the spam mail did not originate from your network.

With the exception of Joe-Jobs, spamvertised websites should be 
terminated. The theory is that the spammer should not be making money 
from the spam. Take away their money and perhaps they'll learn not to 
send spam. Of course, perhaps you enjoy the extra money you make because

the customer sent spam to someone and the website generated traffic that

directly or indirectly made you money.

Also, SpamCop works with people concerning the reports. If I'm not 
mistaken, they'll turn off specific types of reports if you ask. 
Personally, I like to be aware of what my customers are doing when it 
can cause me problems in the long run.

-Jack