How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

Rizzo Frank frank.rizzo at ghettocolo.com
Thu Jun 27 00:48:13 UTC 2002


Chris,

By "IM" I assume you're referring to Instant Messaging as an ideal, not 
any particular protocol or vendor implementation.  Which begs the 
question, is "IM" is a risk because Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO a 
self-proclaimed tier 1 provider, says so, or because you have facts to 
prove it, which you neglected to post?  IRC and AIM have been 
scrutinized pretty heavily and I can't think of any inherent flaws 
(other than lack of out-of-box for support for encryption... but is the 
PSTN really any more secure?).  Just buggy clients under-educated users 
opt to install.

A non-trival amount of providers here use AIM/IRC to help facilitate 
inter- and intra-NOC communication, even if they won't readily admit to 
it.  

Are you blocking "peer-to-peer file sharnig programs" because of 
security risks,  or because your employeees are wasting your 
already-scarce capacity to Global Crossing downloading the new Barry 
Manilow album?

Frank Rizzo

-----Original Message----- 
From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu]
Jane,                                                                                                                            
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
This brings up a good point about IM.  IMHO, IM is a security risk and I 
am                                                       
establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall 
are                                                               
prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs.  
My                                                        
opinion is that these types of programs contribute more to lack 
of                                                                
productivity than to real problem 
solving.                                                                                       
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve 
a                                                        
substantial network support purpose or are they more of a 
distraction,                                                            
allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters, 
interlopers                                                      
on company 
time?                                                                                                                 
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
Regards,                                                                                                                         
 
Christopher J. Wolff, VP 
CIO                                                                                                     
 
Broadband 
Laboratories                                                                                                           
 
http://www.bblabs.com                                                                                                            
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
                                                                                                      
 
From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu]On Behalf 
Of                                                            
Pawlukiewicz 
Jane                                                                                                                
 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:06 
PM                                                                                            
 
To: 
nanog at merit.edu                                                                                                              
 
Subject: How important is the 
PSTN                                                                                               
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
Hi 
all,                                                                                                                          
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
Thanks so much for all the great answers. (Could everyone please 
stop                                                             
telling me that im = instant messaging). I knew I should've never 
gotten                                                          
out of bed this 
morning.                                                                                                         
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
Anyway, 75% of the respondents said the phone is critical. 25% said 
some                                                          
form of IM is 
critical.                                                                                                          
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
Just in case anyone was 
curious.                                                                                                 
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
Is it me or is it very quiet in here 
today?                                                                                      
 
                                                                                                                                 
 
Jane   




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