Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking

Wed Jul 24 20:12:21 UTC 2002

If it starts happening, just unplug whoever's doing it and treat them like 
a DDOSer...poof, you just lost your Internet connectivity.
Something Sony or MCA would love to have happen...huh?
Sorry, your'e causing malicious problems on the Internet, operational 
procedure requires us to disable your address block..click...

What these slugs in Kongress don't realize, this will trigger a war, and 
one they can not win...
Who are they going to give waivers to, to damage personal property next, 
the ACLU, the ADL, the eco-terrorists? the politically korrect?
This is a war they can not hope to win, and all it will do is create chaos 
on the Internet, chaos that WE will bear the brunt of...like there isn't 
enough problems now?

All this because the media leeches won't recognize they have been trumped 
by technology...pitu!

At 14:15 7/24/02 -0400, you wrote:

>I second that. If I see any of my clients having any sort of malicious
>activity directed at them, then there is no chance of me allowing their
>traffic through. I would be more than happy to send all their traffic to
>packet hell. Large corporations do not get any special consideration if
>it comes down to the stability of my network vs. receiving their
>traffic.
>
>Derek
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
>James Thomason
>Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:10 PM
>To: Marshall Eubanks
>Cc: nanog at merit.edu
>Subject: Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
>
>
>
>Would malicious actions on the part of copyright holders violate the
>AUP of most networks?  Or are service providers more willing to tolerate
>denial of service attacks by large corporations than say, spam?
>
>If this legislation is passed, they certainly will earn Null0 on mine.
>
>Regards,
>James Thomason
>
>
>On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
> >
> > Thought this would be considered on-topic as guess who would have
> > to clean up the resulting messes...
> >
> > Regards
> > Marshall Eubanks
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com> -----
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> > From: Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com>
> > Subject: FC: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
> > To: politech at politechbot.com
> > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:29:35 -0400
> > X-URL: http://www.mccullagh.org/
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> >
> > http://news.com.com/2100-1023-945923.html?tag=politech
> >
> >     Could Hollywood hack your PC?
> >     By Declan McCullagh
> >     July 23, 2002, 4:45 PM PT
> >
> >     WASHINGTON--Congress is about to consider an entertainment
> >     industry proposal that would authorize copyright holders to
>disable
> >     PCs used for illicit file trading.
> >
> >     A draft bill seen by CNET News.com marks the boldest political
>effort
> >     to date by record labels and movie studios to disrupt peer-to-peer
> >     networks that they view as an increasingly dire threat to their
>bottom
> >     line.
> >
> >     Sponsored by Reps. Howard Berman, D-Calif., and Howard Coble,
>R-N.C.,
> >     the measure would permit copyright holders to perform nearly
>unchecked
> >     electronic hacking if they have a "reasonable basis" to believe
>that
> >     piracy is taking place. Berman and Coble plan to introduce the
>10-page
> >     bill this week.
> >
> >     The legislation would immunize groups such as the Motion Picture
> >     Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of
> >     America from all state and federal laws if they disable, block or
> >     otherwise impair a "publicly accessible peer-to-peer network."
> >
> >     Anyone whose computer was damaged in the process must receive the
> >     permission of the U.S. attorney general before filing a lawsuit,
>and a
> >     suit could be filed only if the actual monetary loss was more than
> >     $250.
> >
> >     According to the draft, the attorney general must be given
>complete
> >     details about the "specific technologies the copyright holder
>intends
> >     to use to impair" the normal operation of the peer-to-peer
>network.
> >     Those details would remain secret and would not be divulged to the
> >     public.
> >
> >     The draft bill doesn't specify what techniques, such as viruses,
> >     worms, denial-of-service attacks, or domain name hijacking, would
>be
> >     permissible. It does say that a copyright-hacker should not delete
> >     files, but it limits the right of anyone subject to an intrusion
>to
> >     sue if files are accidentally erased.
> >
> >     [...]
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >                                   Marshall Eubanks
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