Nameserver madness
Karl Denninger
karl at Mcs.Net
Tue Jul 22 22:25:17 UTC 1997
Ok folks, this has gone way too far.
First and foremost, let me clear a few points up.
1) I never supported Eugene's antics or his piracy (nor cache
poisoning) which he engaged in.
2) We updated our BIND versions on ALL our nameservers, including the
two listed below, within a few hours of his games beginning, so that
we would NOT distribute or load bad data.
3) We *DO* run a completely separate faction of enhanced DNS, known as
eDNS. This has NOTHING to do with Mr. Kaspuereff or his antics.
4) Our nameservers were not "polluted", nor will they be in the future.
We are running BIND 8.1.1 which prevents this from happening.
5) We do not, never did, and won't support the kinds of games which
Eugene pulled. I disagree *vehemently* with the IAHC and iPOC, and
believe their process is both improper and possibly illegal.
Nonetheless, that you believe someone is breaking the law and
all boundaries of ethics does *NOT* entitle you to go and do the
same in "retaliation". Two wrongs do NOT make a right.
6) Your blocking of the IP addresses is *NOT* effective. Eugene's
stunt was not quite as simple as you might think; he was
deliberately hitting nameservers with recursive requests to force
them to load his data. You would have to isolate yourself ENTIRELY
to be completely free of the problem through your method. The
PROPER fix is to load the newer BIND code which doesn't suffer from
the weakness which was being exploited.
MCSNet will take immediate and strong retaliatory action against *ANY*
ISP which blockades our network in this fashion. It is one thing to
block packets from our network for something which we have in fact done.
It is quite another to do so based on "guilt by association" and flat-out
untruths.
It is my hope that you will reconsider this insanity, and drop the filters
in 192.160.127.x. We are *NOT* your enemies, but we can become them if you
insist on it.
A prompt response is appreciated and expected.
Sincerely,
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>Following is the text of a message on the NANOG list , from Ray Davis
>[ray at carpe.net]
>
>Why not just block all his garbage NSes and the fantasy NSes he's pointing
>to? A quick scan of 'dig
>@nyc.alternic.net . axfr' reveals the entries I've enclosed at the bottom.
>The unique IPs in this list are below and we've blocked them all at our
>border so none of out NSes can get polluted by them. Why not do the same?
>Cheers,
>Ray
>===== Unique set of IPs from the alternic fantasy tld list ====
>151.189.0.25
>192.160.127.125
>192.160.127.90
>193.0.0.193
>194.106.36.1
>194.72.236.3
>194.97.200.20
>198.199.168.92
>198.80.71.68
>198.80.71.70
>199.166.24.1
>199.181.164.1
>199.181.164.2
>202.185.231.4
>202.185.254.12
>204.182.105.150
>204.199.0.2
>204.199.0.3
>204.80.125.130
>204.80.125.145
>204.94.42.1
>204.94.42.2
>204.94.42.5
>204.94.43.1
>205.184.14.8
>205.206.189.3
>205.215.60.5
>205.215.60.6
>206.117.26.219
>206.117.26.220
>206.25.132.30
>206.71.77.2
>206.71.77.4
>207.107.232.3
>207.174.25.15
>207.180.91.9
>207.32.128.1
>207.32.128.131
>207.51.48.15
>207.51.48.5
>207.51.48.8
>208.1.127.6
>208.133.32.70
>208.139.0.16
>208.139.0.26
>208.195.108.10
>208.195.108.9
>====
>
>===== Output from 'dig @nyc.alternic.net . axfr' with valid TLDs edited out
>==
> 86400 SOA MX.ALTERNIC.NET. ROOT.MX.ALTERNIC.NET. (
> 1997072123 ; serial
> 10800 ; refresh (3 hours)
> 900 ; retry (15 mins)
> 604800 ; expire (7 days)
> 86400 ) ; minimum (1 day)
> 518400 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
> 518400 NS IPERDOME.PER.
>IPERDOME.PER. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
> 518400 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
> 518400 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>A. 172000 NS NS3.TRIVALLEY.COM.
>I. 172000 NS NS3.TRIVALLEY.COM.
>NS3.TRIVALLEY.COM 206.25.132.30
>DIR. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>DIR. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>INC. 172000 NS NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET.
>NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET. 172000 A 207.51.48.5
>INC. 172000 NS NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET.
>NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET. 172000 A 207.51.48.8
>PORNO. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>PORNO. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>PORNO. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>PORNO. 518000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>PORNO. 518000 NS IPERDOME.PER.
>IPERDOME.PER. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>PORNO. 518000 NS NS1.BELFAIR.NET.
>NS1.BELFAIR.NET. 86400 A 204.94.43.1
>PORNO. 518000 NS CLUBLOVE.XXX.
>CLUBLOVE.XXX. 386400 A 208.139.0.16
>PORNO. 518000 NS PENTHOUSELIVE.XXX.
>PENTHOUSELIVE.XXX. 186400 A 208.139.0.26
>USVI. 172000 NS NS1.USVI.NET.
>NS1.USVI.NET. 172000 A 204.199.0.2
>USVI. 172000 NS NS2.USVI.NET.
>NS2.USVI.NET. 172000 A 204.199.0.3
>TLD. 172000 NS DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 198.199.168.92
>TLD. 172000 NS NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 15228 A 207.180.91.9
>TLD. 172000 NS NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.9
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.10
>FILM. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>FILM. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>DOT. 172000 NS LONEPEAK.VII.COM.
>LONEPEAK.VII.COM. 172000 A 206.71.77.2
>DOT. 172000 NS OLYMPUS.VII.COM.
>OLYMPUS.VII.COM. 172000 A 206.71.77.4
>GMBH. 86400 NS ns.germany.net.
>ns.germany.net. 172000 A 151.189.0.25
>GMBH. 86400 NS ns.seicom.net.
>ns.seicom.net. 172000 A 194.97.200.20
>NUM. 172000 NS NS1.NUM.NET.
>NS1.NUM.NET. 172000 A 205.215.60.5
>NUM. 172000 NS NS2.NUM.NET.
>NS2.NUM.NET. 172000 A 205.215.60.6
>888. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>XXX. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>XXX. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>XXX. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>XXX. 518000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>FAM. 172000 NS RS1.LANMINDS.COM.
>RS1.LANMINDS.COM. 172000 A 208.1.127.6
>FAM. 172000 NS RS2.LANMINDS.NET.
>RS2.LANMINDS.NET. 172000 A 207.174.25.15
>PER. 604800 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>PER. 604800 NS IPERDOME.PER.
>IPERDOME.PER. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>PER. 604800 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>FAQ. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>GLOBE. 172000 NS NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.220
>GLOBE. 172000 NS NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.219
>GAMES. 172000 NS NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.220
>GAMES. 172000 NS NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.219
>MALL. 172000 NS NS.UNETY.NET.
>NS.UNETY.NET. 172000 A 207.32.128.1
>MALL. 172000 NS NS.UNETY.COM.
>NS.UNETY.COM. 172000 A 207.32.128.131
>RADIO. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>RADIO. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>TRAVEL. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>TRAVEL. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>TRAVEL. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>JPN. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>JPN. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>JPN. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>ZOO. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>ENT. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>ENT. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>ENT. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ASIA. 172000 NS NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.220
>ASIA. 172000 NS NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.219
>NS.RIPE.NET. 172800 A 193.0.0.193
>LAW. 172000 NS NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET.
>NS1.GLOBECOMM.NET. 172000 A 207.51.48.5
>LAW. 172000 NS NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET.
>NS2.GLOBECOMM.NET. 172000 A 207.51.48.8
>VID. 172000 NS DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 198.199.168.92
>VID. 172000 NS NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 15228 A 207.180.91.9
>VID. 172000 NS NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.9
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.10
>GAY. 172000 NS ANAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG.
>ANAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG. 172000 A 198.80.71.70
>GAY. 172000 NS SYNAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG.
>SYNAESTHESIA.COGNOSCENTI.ORG. 172000 A 198.80.71.68
>GAY. 172000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>GAY. 172000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>HELP. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>HELP. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>FUND. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>FUND. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>URL. 172000 NS DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 198.199.168.92
>URL. 172000 NS NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 15228 A 207.180.91.9
>URL. 172000 NS NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.9
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.10
>HIGGS. 172000 NS NS1.HIGGS.NET.
>NS1.HIGGS.NET. 172000 A 204.80.125.130
>HIGGS. 172000 NS NS2.HIGGS.NET.
>NS2.HIGGS.NET. 172000 A 204.80.125.145
>ARTS. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>ARTS. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>LIVE. 518000 NS iperdome.per.
>iperdome.per. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>LIVE. 518000 NS ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
>ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us. 15228 A 207.180.91.9
>GEO. 172000 NS DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 198.199.168.92
>GEO. 172000 NS NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 15228 A 207.180.91.9
>GEO. 172000 NS NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.9
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.10
>EUR. 172000 NS NS1.WEBSERVICES.NET.
>NS1.WEBSERVICES.NET. 172000 A 194.106.36.1
>NS1.WEBSERVICES.NET. 172000 A 194.72.236.3
>EUR. 172000 NS NS2.WEBSERVICES.NET.
>NS2.WEBSERVICES.NET. 172800 A 194.72.236.3
>GER. 86400 NS ns.germany.net.
>ns.germany.net. 172000 A 151.189.0.25
>GER. 86400 NS ns.seicom.net.
>ns.seicom.net. 172000 A 194.97.200.20
>KSA. 172000 NS NS1.ALASKAONE.COM.
>NS1.ALASKAONE.COM. 172000 A 205.184.14.8
>KSA. 172000 NS NS2.ALASKAONE.COM.
>NS2.ALASKAONE.COM. 172000 A 205.184.14.8
>EXP. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>EXP. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>EXP. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>EXP. 518000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>LLB. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>KIDS. 172000 NS NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.220
>KIDS. 172000 NS NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.219
>HAM. 172000 NS DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 198.199.168.92
>HAM. 172000 NS NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.9
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.10
>KTI. 172000 NS DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 198.199.168.92
>KTI. 172000 NS NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS1.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 15228 A 207.180.91.9
>KTI. 172000 NS NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.9
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.10
>BANK. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>BANK. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>MED. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>MED. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>MED. 518000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>MED. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>PORN. 172000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>PORN. 172000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>PORN. 172000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>PORN. 172000 NS NS1.BELFAIR.NET.
>NS1.BELFAIR.NET. 86400 A 204.94.43.1
>PORN. 172000 NS IPERDOME.PER.
>IPERDOME.PER. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>PORN. 172000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>FREE. 172000 NS NS.ALPHAQUE.COM.
>NS.ALPHAQUE.COM. 172000 A 202.185.254.12
>FREE. 172000 NS NS2.ALPHAQUE.COM.
>NS2.ALPHAQUE.COM. 172000 A 202.185.231.4
>BIZ. 172000 NS CEREBUS.MCS.COM.
>CEREBUS.MCS.COM. 172000 A 192.160.127.125
>BIZ. 172000 NS KITTEN.MCS.COM.
>KITTEN.MCS.COM. 172000 A 192.160.127.90
>ART. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>ART. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>LNX. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>LNX. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>LNX. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>LNX. 518000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>ZONE. 172000 NS NS1.USVI.NET.
>NS1.USVI.NET. 172000 A 204.199.0.2
>ZONE. 172000 NS NS2.USVI.NET.
>NS2.USVI.NET. 172000 A 204.199.0.3
>SEA. 172000 NS DNS1.SEANET.COM.
>DNS1.SEANET.COM. 172000 A 199.181.164.1
>SEA. 172000 NS DNS2.SEANET.COM.
>DNS2.SEANET.COM. 172000 A 199.181.164.2
>LTD. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>LTD. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>LTD. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>LTD. 518000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>NETZ. 86400 NS ns.germany.net.
>ns.germany.net. 172000 A 151.189.0.25
>NETZ. 86400 NS ns.seicom.net.
>ns.seicom.net. 172000 A 194.97.200.20
>TOUR. 172000 NS NS1.USVI.NET.
>NS1.USVI.NET. 172000 A 204.199.0.2
>TOUR. 172000 NS NS2.USVI.NET.
>NS2.USVI.NET. 172000 A 204.199.0.3
>CHIRO. 518000 NS iperdome.per.
>iperdome.per. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>CHIRO. 518000 NS ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
>ns1.starfire.douglas.ma.us. 15228 A 207.180.91.9
>SEX. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>SEX. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>SEX. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.ALTERNIC.NET.
>CITY. 172000 NS DNS1.SEANET.COM.
>DNS1.SEANET.COM. 172000 A 199.181.164.1
>CITY. 172000 NS DNS2.SEANET.COM.
>DNS2.SEANET.COM. 172000 A 199.181.164.2
>NEWS. 172000 NS NS1.HIGGS.NET.
>NS1.HIGGS.NET. 172000 A 204.80.125.130
>NEWS. 172000 NS NS2.HIGGS.NET.
>NS2.HIGGS.NET. 172000 A 204.80.125.145
>NIC. 518000 NS MX.ALTERNIC.NET.
>MX.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>NIC. 518000 NS NYC.ALTERNIC.NET.
>NYC.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 207.51.48.15
>NIC. 518000 NS ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET.
>ARAGORN.ALTERNIC.NET. 86400 A 204.94.42.2
>NIC. 518000 NS EEK.HTTPD.COM.
>EEK.HTTPD.COM. 86400 A 204.182.105.150
>NIC. 518000 NS ALTER.NIC.
>ALTER.NIC. 86400 A 204.94.42.5
>ALTER.NIC. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>NIC. 518000 NS ALTERNIC.NIC.
>ALTERNIC.NIC. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>NIC. 518000 NS WWW.ALTER.NIC.
>WWW.ALTER.NIC. 86400 A 204.94.42.1
>NIC. 518000 NS WWW.ALTERNIC.NET.
>WWW.ALTERNIC.NET. 186400 A 204.94.42.1
>WWW.ALTERNIC.NET. 186400 A 207.51.48.15
>NIC. 518000 NS IPERDOME.PER.
>IPERDOME.PER. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>NIC. 518000 NS WWW.PER.
>WWW.PER. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>NIC. 518000 NS MAIL.PER.
>MAIL.PER. 604800 A 208.133.32.70
>CORP. 172000 NS CEREBUS.MCS.COM.
>CEREBUS.MCS.COM. 172000 A 192.160.127.125
>CORP. 172000 NS KITTEN.MCS.COM.
>KITTEN.MCS.COM. 172000 A 192.160.127.90
>GALLERY. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>DDS. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>SKY. 172000 NS FASTLANE.CA.
>FASTLANE.CA. 172000 A 205.206.189.3
>SKY. 172000 NS SKYSCAPE.NET.
>SKYSCAPE.NET. 172000 A 207.107.232.3
>PRICES. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>EMAIL. 172000 NS NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.220
>EMAIL. 172000 NS NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM.
>NS2.WORLDSHOPNET.COM. 172000 A 206.117.26.219
>800. 172000 NS NS1.VRX.NET.
>NS1.VRX.NET. 172000 A 199.166.24.1
>VIDEO. 172000 NS DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>DNS.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 198.199.168.92
>VIDEO. 172000 NS NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US.
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.9
>NS2.STARFIRE.DOUGLAS.MA.US. 172000 A 208.195.108.10
>============================================================================
>==
>root
>
>--
>david at DELETETHIS.speco.com
>
>To reply, remove 'DELETETHIS' from e-mail address
>
>Karl Denninger <karl at MCS.COM> wrote in article
><5r39c8$75b$1 at Jupiter.Mcs.Net>...
>> In article <01bc96e4$c6ca5530$0101a8c0 at superduper>,
>> David Schutt <david at DELETETHIS.speco.com> wrote:
>> >What in the world is going on with the nameservers? People are blocking
>> >addresses that are or were associated with Alternic, and that includes
>> >Cerebus and Kitten. Is this going to cause us MCS users problems?
>> >--
>> >david at DELETETHIS.speco.com
>> >
>> >To reply, remove 'DELETETHIS' from e-mail address
>>
>> Who's blocking cerebus and kitten?
>>
>> I've seen no evidence of this. We had nothing to do with the Alternic on
>> those machines, and Eugene's root has been off for months.
>>
>> --
>> --
>
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