Internet Operations Task Force concept (fwd)

Thu Nov 11 04:37:02 UTC 1993

Apologies if you've seen this n times. I just want to make sure
everyone has had a chance to respond, especially network engineers.
	Mark


> From:    epg at merit.edu
> To:      iepg at aarnet.edu.au, postel at ISI.EDU

> At the last IEPG meeting, we discussed whether the IEPG needed to
> find an umbrella organization within which to operate.  The IETF
> community has been voicing concern that there is a need for an
> operations task force to serve the broader community.  
> 
> The enclosed message asks for your opinion as to whether an
> Operational Task Force would be a valuable thing.  Just in case
> you are not on the IETF mailing list, I've forwarded this message
> to our mailing list.  Please feel free to express your opinions.
> 
> Thanks.
>          --Elise
> 
> Forwarded message:
> > From postel at ISI.EDU Wed Nov 10 13:43:48 1993
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:42:31 -0800
> > From: postel at ISI.EDU (Jon Postel)
> > Message-Id: <199311101842.AA23468 at zephyr.isi.edu>
> > To: ietf at ISI.EDU, iab at ISI.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Internet Operations Task Force concept
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Begin Included Message -----
> > 
> > >From postel at ISI.EDU Wed Nov 10 10:06:35 1993
> > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:06:27 -0800
> > From: postel at ISI.EDU (Jon Postel)
> > To: epg at merit.edu
> > Subject: Re: Internet Operations Task Force concept
> > Cc: iab at ISI.EDU
> > 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > Several good point have been raised about an IOTF, i think there
> > is room for discussion.  I've suggested that the IAB could (if it
> > got it's act together) help set up an IOTF.
> > 
> > There are repeated calls for something more in the operation area.
> > 
> > We need to find people that want to do the work, and they must be people 
> > who do operations stuff in their real job.  
> > 
> > There are already groups that are already involed in this area (IEPG,
> > regional-techs, etc).  An IOTF should not ignore these groups, but
> > rather give them a home and a means of further coordinating.
> > 
> > So if helping to create a framework where existing groups get more 
> > recognition as being in charge of operations, and if it helps them 
> > to coordinate even better, then lets do it.
> > 
> > The network operators have to be on board, they have to want and
> > participate in the IOTF.  If they don't want it and/or don't participate 
> > there is no point in doing it.
> > 
> > I think the IAB's role is to help get it set up.  I also think
> > that if the governance procedures are parallel to the IETF, then the
> > IOTF ought to have some influence on who is on the IAB, just as the
> > IETF does.
> > 
> > So i think we need to hear from the real network operators: do you want
> > an IOTF or not ?
> > 
> > --jon.
> > 
> > 
>