[Nanog-futures] blacklists getting out of hand?

[Lynda]

Christopher Morrow wrote:

>On Nov 28, 2007 12:30 PM, Lynda <shrdlu at deaddrop.org> wrote:
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>>Could I just send the email from a local server? Sure, but the ability
>>to filter spam for this particular domain is high on my list, and I use
>>pair's servers to do so, before I ever see anything. It isn't an easy
>>question, and I know it isn't. I was prompted to note this only because
>>I see that the escalation vis-a-vis current AUP enforcements is only
>>going to be aggravated by the fact that Martin is using a gmail address
>>(which means a whole lot of bounces, unfortunately).
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>So, if you let someone else manage your 'spam problem' (which is what
>using RBL's is doing) there's a chance that their set of 'policies'
>will intersect in a bad way with your business needs.
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Well, they're not really business needs. I also suspect that I didn't
make my point clearly. I was speaking of the fact that some people are
using gmail, and others are bouncing it, and using myself as an example.
It isn't really causing me, personally, a problem. I just use a local
machine, not on anyone's blacklist, for those rare occurrences where it
matters to me. Mostly, it doesn't.

>That said, shouldn't pair's server setup allow you to whitelist?
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That would be on the receiving end, which is the opposite end of which I
speak. I was talking specifically about my using a relay at pair to send
email out from whichever_account at deaddrop.org, and having one or two
bounce because  pair's smtp server that is used as a relay made it into
a blacklist.

>>No easy answers, are there?
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>no.... but that's why you get paid the big bucks? :)
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Oh, not any more, I don't. I am *retired* (Woot!).

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