[Nanog-futures] Cisco outage

[Michael K. Smith - Adhost]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Hannigan [mailto:hannigan at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:51 AM
> To: Alex Pilosov
> Cc: nanog-futures at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: [Nanog-futures] Cisco outage
> 
> On Nov 28, 2007 1:33 PM, Alex Pilosov <alex at pilosoft.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> >
> > > > To clarify this discussion, I'd like to point out that the bounce
> in
> > > > quesiton was from a private email from Marty to J.Oquendo.
> > >
> > > In response to a post from the list. Same exact thing we have setup
> with
> > > this autoresponder policy.
> > Please don't confuzzle things. Was it an email *to* the list or was
> it
> > private email to J.Oquendo?
> 
> Is his mail bouncing or not? You seem to like to apply standards to
> things based on how you want to react. So far, I've been reading
> Dillon, Bush, Oquendo, whine about being asked to be on topic. We've
> had agreement on Bush's bad behavoir here before, Dillons as well, not
> Oquendo, but he over-reacted based on a message that he did not see
> which he didn't know about -- since he didn't see it. To date, nobody
> has been warned. :-) It's amazing that challenging someones validity
> causes such a ruckus.
> 

Mail from the list to the list subscriber is not bouncing.  Thus, no violation of the AUP.

> >
> > It doesn't matter what it was in response *to*. Private email between
> list
> > members is not covered by AUP. In case this still isn't clear, if I
> send a
> > private email response to someone in response to their list post that
> > contains off-topic information, that's not the AUP violation. To
> insist
> > that any email between list members need to comply to AUP is silly.
> 
> Um. That's what happens when someone elses mailer responds to yours
> and mail doesn't route through Merit's mailer. It's conversation
> between your assets and mine. If Merit were somehow involved, you
> might be right.
> 
> To the list, as a result of a list post, etc. They work exactly the
> same as far as I can tell.
> 

Mail from the list to the list subscriber is not bouncing.  Thus, no violation of the AUP.

I do not wish to see action taken against J Oquendo related to mail bouncing between you and him.

Regards,

Mike
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